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    1. I hear ya, but if these joints were suede, I’d probably wear them out even less in fear of getting water/coffee/birds#$%/etc. on them. They’re nice in person, though. Very nice.

  1. These photo better than they look. They are are the same crappy cheep looking nubuck that they put on the thunder 4’s. JB stop being cheep!they could have at least given us the nubuck from the raptor 7’s or black portion of the Oreo 6’s.

    The best material used on 4’s as of the recent release was what they used on the Cav 4’s, the bred 4’s a step down in material, thunder 4’s was almost like felt paper. These toro joints, same as felt like material as thunders!